PG in Australia and New Zealand AFTER MBBS IN CHINA

By Live Dr - Sat Oct 11, 2:28 pm

PG in Australia and New Zealand

To do PG in Australia and New Zealand you have to do lots of stuff. To begin with if you think that you can pay some fees and pass IELTS to become elligible, obviously you are mistaken. You cannot do PG in these countries in this fashion.

1. Get a degree from college recognised by WHO.
2. Pass IELTS academic module with a score of 7.
3. Write AMC(Australian Medical Council) theory exam and then pass AMC practical.

AMC theory is equivalent to Step 2 CK of USMLE or PLAB1.
AMC practical is similar to CS part of USMLE but much more difficult then it.
I don’t know what book you can use for it.
You can write this exam in Australia or New Zealand only.

For info regarding fees www.amc.org

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The AMC has just introduced a Competent Authority
which will allow some International Medical
Graduates to gain exemption from the AMC

Please refer to the AMC Website and follow the links
to the Self Assessment Information and
FAQs for Competent Authority

The examination comprises of 2 parts, being a multiple-choice questionnaire and a clinical examination.

The Multiple Choice Questionnaire (MCQ) is a test of the principles and practice of medicine in the fields of internal medicine, paediatrics, psychiatry, surgery and obstetrics and gynaecology. A number of questions on each discipline also have a focus on general practice.

The clinical examinations evaluate clinical competence in terms of medical knowledge, clinical skills and professional attitudes for the safe and effective clinical practice of medicine in the Australian community.

The exams consist of two linked stages:

  • Stage 1 is an assessment of consulting skills in medicine and surgery, obstetrics and gynaecology and paediatrics.
  • Stage 2 is a multi-station assessment of clinical skills.

The examinations are designed as a comprehensive test of medical knowledge, clinical competency and performance. Both MCQ and clinical assessments are multidisciplinary and integrated.

Candidates for the AMC exams must demonstrate the ability to exercise discrimination, judgment, reasoning and communication.
There are two sections in the AMC exams.

1.  The computer administered multiple-choice examination consisting of multiple-choice questions of (MCQ).  The AMC MCQ tests candidates in general practice, internal medicine, paediatrics, psychiatry, surgery, obstetrics and gynaecology.  The AMC MCQ is conducted over one day, and is in two parts, each of three hours duration.  Each part consists of 125 questions.

2. The AMC Clinical examination covers medicine, surgery, obstetrics, gynaecology, paediatrics, and psychiatry.  The format of the AMC clinical exam can consists of a multistation assessment of candidates clinical skills and takes half a day.


AMC Clinical Exam Clinical

The Clinical Component of the Amc Exam consists of an entire morning or afternoon spent assessing your clinical skills though stations. These scenarios will contain a clinical scenario and you will be asked a number of tasks – most of the time it is essentially generic – a short clinical preamble, and then ‘Take a history and proceed’ as your instruction.

The exam is 20 stations – four of which are rest stations, so you are assessed on 16 stations.  Before each station you have 2 minutes (the beginning of which is sounded by a bell) to move your next station and to read the printed information attached to the outside the door.

A bell sounds and you will have 8 minutes to walk in and complete your task – the examiner will be assessing you on a number of different levels:

  • Emergency Skills and emergent presentation –  
    do you miss serious pathology (or the potential for serious pathology), or are you safe??  Do not forget that this is supposed to assess your clinical competency – if you know full well that you would ask for advice
    – ask for it!  Say you would make a call, or if this option is refused, state what your concerns are and Be Safe.
    No one should fail you for bringing someone in for observation. But you will be failed for sending someone home who should go to hospital.
  • Communication – this will range from how sensitive you
    appear, how well you explain things, or simply how good your English language ability is.  The harsh reality of life, however fair or unfair, is that the AMC are assessing your ability to work as an OTD amongst the Australian population – they have to be assured
    that if you have to tell a patient that he or she has cancer, or whatever other information is required, you can do it accurately, sensitively, and are fully understood by the recipient.
  • Cultural differences
    – Doc I have the wog.
    – can you take a sexual history?  Talk about abortion?  Notice if someone has bruising and ask and advise about sexual abuse and domestic violence?  
    Whatever your cultural background or personal values, by sitting the exam you are accepting the cultural standards and norms of Australia – if this means doing a pap smear or talking about sex to a 16 year old girl, then whatever your personal cultural beliefs you
    had better be comfortable doing it.  
  • Handling difficult situations
    – would you be able to reason with a patient unreasonably refusing treatment? Do you understand the rights of australia patients
  • Understanding of the Australian Health Care
    – do you appreciate that the facilities at a rural and/or remote hospital are so very different to a tertiary centre in a city?  Do you appreciate that seriously unwell patients need to be flown out of a rural hospital by Royal Flying Doctors if they need expert urgent medical treatment?

New Zealand:
1. Get a degree from college recognised by WHO.
2. Pass IELTS academic module with a score of 7.5 with minimum of 7 in each discipline.
3. Write AMC theory or USMLE step 1 and step2 CK or PLAB1.
4. Write NZREX clinical.

NZREX clinical is similar to AMC clinical. Much more difficult then CS part of USMLE. Fees of NZREX clinical is about 3750 NZ dollars(1 NZ dollar = 30 Indian rupees). More info on www.mcnz.org.nz

You are not into PG programme yet for either countries. If you want to do PG in medicine you have to be registered with Royal Australasian college. Once you do that and do 3 years of preliminary training in medicine(Job in New Zealand or Astralia in medical departments) then you have to write FRACP and if you pass it then you have to do 3 years of advance training and then you will become a consultant.
If you want to do PG in surgery same pathway but you have to write FRACS instead of FRACP and advance training will be longer then that.

Mind you, once you pass NZREX clinical or AMC clinical, you can find job easily and you can earn upto 5000$ per month and you can study at the same time as well.

source Dr.Anurag

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