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u r talking about a fundamental right? well, why cant u reveal urself then?

u say my comparison is childish? huh! wht about how u keep asking the same ques again and again when u have been given an answer- go to delhi and look for urself..

u still have another year to go. anyways u can visit afmg and not join if u r not satisfied. no one is forcing u to.

what will u post a list of in communities of all colleges? i dint get u..

i never said tht all famous ppl are- the name tht u said! huh
im just saying tht im sure he would have thought of a day like this, and he knows wht to do! if he was a fraud, dont u think he wud have given ANY list of students by now?

u r asking dr vikas to put up a list of all the students and another list of those who passed. dont u think this is an insult to those who faild? hw will u feel if u had failed? why dnt u give us a list of ur seniors who went to afmg and failed? it will b in dr vikas’s list anyways rite!

even if he does publish a list, are u going to contact them to check if they really went to afmg? wht will u do with the list? u will come back here saying - prove the list is genuine. and then u will demand to see more proof. where is this going to end? wht is ur next move?

tomorrow if daims or dams claim 99% pass, i might not believe them. but i wont scrap in their forums and bug them to prove it. if i want to join them, i will, if not, i wont. as simple as tht. if im doubting their authenticity, i will meet them in person and clarify my doubts myself.

u r talking about rti in the sense tht u say tht u will talk any crap in the newspapers with the plea tht u have the right to freedom to express urself. thts wht u r doing now.

remember, before talking about ur right, talk about if wht ur doing is right or wrong. reveal ur identity. why cant u? and u accept u r a chicken! wow. talk about an awakened and clever citizen of india!

and one more thing- why dont u post a list of the 100 seniors form ur univ who went to afmg, out of which only 2 passed.

and now u threaten to ask any other institute to claim their pass percent?

how absurdddd

Ufff,i threatened institutes!!lols..u r really funny samina!!
I just intended 2 emphasize,its only dr.vikas whoz on Dartboard,
BUT ANY OTHER COACHING CLASS WISHING TO BOAST PUBLICLY!

Yeh..tht was i said..
well, if you feel, i belong to any terrorist organisation and have really threatened…then i am commentless and that must be your individual point of view…well nothing can be donefor it..
what i meant was, i am not plunging in only Dr. vikas…
This should be for each and every coaching class claiming,,..they are and must be liable to prove thier claim…

You want students to get attracted seeing the BEAUTIFUL PASS%age, but then YOU MUST NOT TAKE STEPBCK, WHEN ASKED CLARIFICATION FOR THE SAME!!

Wow,
if i have to believe, Samina`s words as Dr. Vikas`s refelctions…so should i understand that his last word has come?
`Dare not ask about Pass%age in Public….Meet Personally in my office`….
i want to ask..what is so fishy, that can be revealed only in office?and that too personally ? one on one?lols….i beleive, i am not anybody special who is only worth knowing the truth…WE ALL EQUALLY DESERVE TO KNW THE TRUTH AND IT MUST BE OPENED HERE ITSELF!!

Dr. Vikas, for long is trying to be under cloak…that, since i am asking INFORMATION from an anonymous pro., he cannot open his mouth?
So, Dr. Vikas, do you mean to say?Any single student, with original pRO., having intention to know the truth, will be given FULL explanation? Or, you love to deal any such plea ONLY PERSONALLY IN OFFICE?

I appreciate your craze for photographs, and your regular upload on your orkut pro., WEll, what matters really is only the DATA even in black&white… nothing coloured reqd..Revising your photographs for fourth time didnt help me, that the pass%age is 61!!!

I say again, (for Samina…i believe, in her next response, she wud hve forgotten)- i respect Dr. Vikas…i believe he is a magnificient teacher..he obviously knows much more than us, and being with him. will help us know much more…BUT none of these qualities justifies 61%claim…And now we honestly Need to know it!!

There is no use in typing more 40 SCRAPS just to emphasize, that CLAIM MUST BE PROVED IN PUBLIC….
its straight - TRUTH DOESNT DEPEND ON THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON REQUESTING IT…So there is no use in messing about it…

Requested Dr. vikas…i guess found a solution…

You believe, i am not a student, and somebody from either DIAMS/DAMS(these are only known competitors to me so far..) or some childhoood enemy(..lols.)–and i will live my last breath to pull you down..
..will bug about authenticity of list..will make fake Ids… bla bla…allthough this is just fantasy..but even if you believe it..

you invariably undrstand that, its hightime, and TRUTH must be PROVED to STUDENTS…
Lets put it in this way..
You put in the data in here….and let somebody of us, whom you trust in..search at his arm about authenticity…I WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO PLAY ANY ROLE IN JUSTIFYING THE AUTHENTICITY…(as dr, vikas suspects i breathe by pulling him down…)

For example, lets take our ownr of the forum. Rejaneesh…quite an energetic un-biased trustworthy fellow…
i am sure samina, you wont have problem with him…Hez with us thru this form for pretty long, and has been selflessly helping students with loads of queries…..
Lets all request Rejaneesh to help us in here…Take responsibility of authentifying at his ease..with whatever methods he wants to use, or whoever he wants to appoint in helping him…( i again wont be allowed, as dr. vikas suspects me…)

Dear Rejneesh. please dont look or believe any profile…which has been recently made less than a month before, and has very less frenz or communities..(as expectedly Dr. vikas will come up with a clause, that i will keepmyself busy 24*7 in making fake profiles and denying that i came to AFMG—again a fantasy, as i hve my course to finish….)

I am sure, Dr. Vikas puts faith in Rejaneesh…and he will help us…
I am sure this solution must not bug Samina especially..(as she wants me to meet Dr. Vikas personally in office, rather than truth being discussed on ORKUT)

Dearest Dr. Vikas.. i hope you will with all sportsman spirit accept this proposal…
Believe me or not, i wil be happy to have got defeated..coz i will be discovering GUD sir for me!!!
So letsdoit

Samina says ; u r talking about rti in the sense tht u say tht u will talk any crap in the newspapers with the plea tht u have the right to freedom to express urself. thts wht u r doing now.

IS IT A CRAP, TO ASK POLITELY, `SIR, PLEASE EXPLAIN, HOW DID YOU COUNT 61% CLAIM?—-Samina, should i remind you, if this is false, this can be misleading to hundreds of students who could have had done better somewhere else!!!Its important to know for people like us, who are yet not as patriotic as you are…

Samina says–she hasnt met dr. vikas, never spoken to him bla bla..and she isnt patriotic abt him.lols…
You said, you might no believe DIAMS/DAMS but you are ready to believe AFMG without any clarification..straight!!..madam, what now:?(sorry, its known, you are BIASED!!! afmg-sided)

In the core of heart,(unless you arent biased), u understand clarification MUST be given, if requested in a polite manner!!And you wish to keep your mouth shut!!when i scrapped you the link, where i requested details politely in AFMG FORUM, and it was very acutely deleted……
Shh…You must keep your mouth shut…rite?Coz, Dr. Vikas`s fault is not fault..
When he deletes your thread where he can(AFMG FORUM)—these must not be discussed
When i ask sumthing, (coz this can be MISLEADING for many students)–you say,,,how dare you ask…its his personal property!!!

Sorry to say..but ONE DAY, IF Dr. Vikas says, HE WAS SCRAPPING UNDER SAMINA`S NAME, I WONT BE SHOCKED!!!

sAMINA, Can you please tell me, why have you selectively deleted MY SCRAPS from your scrapbook , and similarly, your scraps from my scrapbuk?
—-are you afraid, Dr. Vikas will come to know, that we tend to become frenz?
Atleast, ask him, if he allows us to be in each other`s friendllist!!!

For once, when we chatted, i have that chat- saved in my GMAIL…should i rub even this evidence out!?

Girl, Chill out!!,,,Please….Dr. Vikas might be your future Sir..Its not important to impres him, by uselessly and irrationally taking his side…

Coz, as i said..you never commentd upon, My Thread being deleted from AFMG forum(my 2nd attempt)where i had politely requested information…and you also said…that it was a nice polite move…

—————And for those guys, who still dont know this completely…
My 3 threads so far has been deleted from AFMG forum–requesting clarification for 61% claim… Read– they have been cruelly deleted..2 of 3 were fully polite, innocently written without any harsh words or abuse…

i am sure, if Dr. vikas had rights on this forum, he wud hve had deleted threads here too …..

My 4th attempt, ..thanks got i gave the title` will u delete this thread again`….dont know, why vikas sir felt mercy on it…this wasnt deleted..well might be vikas sir wanted to make use of it?…he infact provided his links in his scrap above..misunderstanding that i am THREATENING him.!..lols..

…………
i just pray to god, there shudnt be anything fishy…..

Woh woh woh…!!!! Hold on…
Juz, I don’t think that solution u brought up is that good and appropriate.

One more thing I want to say:-
Many of the community members were, these days, sending me mails/scraps/messages asking me about AFMG and about the issue regarding their claim of 61% this time (and even about the 99% last time). Some were asking me about my opinion about AFMG and Dr.Vikas, the classes over there, etc.
Let me make it clear. I have no idea about these matters. I have never been to AMFG, don’t know Dr.Vikas personally and have no idea about their academic performances as well. I even don’t know anyone personally who took a class over there (Know some people who took a class at DIAMS). What all I know about AFMG and Dr. Vikas is exactly the same as u guys know, that’s through orkut. He is really a helping hand for all of the FMG’s, we know this from his past activities in this community. So, plz don’t send me mails/messages,etc. regarding this. I’m really tired of sending the same reply to everyone, that’s why now posting it here so that everyone can see. Hope u guys understand it.. thanks
Then about proving his claim, it’s exactly upto him. If he doesn’t want to give any proof for some reason, nobody can force him. I can’t ask him to do that (as some members asked me so). As long as nobody goes against the community rules (Rules are given in the community front page), I can assure u that I won’t delete this topic.
Bye

i understand ur concern… and i told u tht someone in dr vikas’s position will not make such a huge remark in public about 61% if tht wasnt true.
we spoke once, briefly. and mayb u r a student, maybe u r an agent. it dsnt matter. and yes, i dont know dr vikas personally. I HAVE NOT MET HIM. AND I AM NOT WORKING FOR AFMG. - im saying this because many have asked me this.

ok now im talking about common sense. Juz- think about it.. if u were famous, would u make a false remark in public? esp when there r many other established institutes treatening to test the genuineness of a new institute tht has become famous since its start?

of course not!

mayb u shud go to delhi and check for urself.

Samina Tasneem

think about it

Sir.,
it ws my mistake,i claimed afmg ws fraud..asked sorry million no. Of times..it wud be illegitimate to keepon pulling it
i am not sorry to threat you with RTI..i am indian citizen,i have fundamental right and i feel proud using it..

Your comparison was too childish..
Assets of gates or ambani dont speak for quality,as there are innumerable gud n bad ways to print money
i didnt ask anythin personal abt dr vikas,neither i m interested
MY QUERY WAS TO ANYBODY RESPONSIBLE PERSON FROM AFMG WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO SPEAK IN DETAIL ABOUT THEIR SUCESS
also samina,gates and ambani dont roar from rat-hole about their success..their complete balancesheet for each paise is printed in newspapers quaterly..so that nobody has to take pain to remind of RTI.!
Let dr vikas publish list of students..only if they deny being a student f afmg from their authentic pro,we wil believe it..
I wil post list in communities f all colleges,and lets see what their authentic members say…

Its again very immatured 4 u 2 believe,tht all famous ppl are RAJA SATYAVADI HARISHCHANDRA..
Juz anybody cn ditch..
Dont politicians do scams wen they knw eventualy they wud b caught!
If we keep shut 2day,tomorow DIAMS/DAMS wil claim 99.9%result!wil u believe samina?
I dont think,i need reasons to be clever and awakened citizen!

I won’t delete this topic untill someone tries intentionally to defame AFMG or Dr.Vikas personally. But remember guys, give respect to each other. I deleted the previous topics about this issue because some members were using a bad language and were just saying AFMG is a kind of bad institution, without being reasonable or giving evidence. plz rememeber that this is not a place for personal attack, insult or harassment. It’s meant for discussing about MCI Screening test and its related issues. Hope everyone understands that.

So far, what “Juz” (Not only him) wants to know seems reasonable and hope Dr.Vikas will come up with a good answer making everyone shut up; but still, it’s upto him. Whatever it may be, he was really a helpful person for all of us.
bye

dear all,
you all want a reply from a guy who is there from past 1yr in this community and replying to all the queries and doubts of all fmge.
and there is this guy juzz who started the thread stating that we are fraud and cheating students and used such foul words for me and even threatned us , (check the folowing link http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#CommMsgs.aspx?cmm=33686010&tid=5268939104364524156&start=1)
and expect that i will reply to him. he even does not know how to address his seniors and teachers
those who want a reply from me check his profile . i am very sure that he is not a student but somebody else.
check yourself how is this guy behaving
even if i give the list of students he will again challange the authensity of that list coz he is here with a definate purpose and aim. and he will definately try to defame us (most probably to benifit some one else)
if he she /he is asking me a question i also have a right to know who is he/she. from his profile i can only see that he /she has no friends and he has only joined 2 communities that itself put a big questionmark on his genuineness(probaly now after reading this he will try to make some friends and join other communities)
those who are actually in the community for the past one year know me very well .
now i think i need not to say anything more as people like juzz wile keep on coming
lets discuss something relavent about the test and academics.
and i am sure juzz you will now come up with something new and will try to drag this topic for long for the reasons known to all. but i am sorry i will not ever reply to you .

Sir, i wholeheartedly respect you..
I beg your pardon!please dont misunderstand me sir! yeah, i was very agressive in the beginning, but my fellow colleagues taught me to be polite…please, gimme a second chance..

Sir,
i have never ever mentioned in any thread, not to join afmg and to join other classes like diams or dams or if anything else exists..i hve never said, that ANY OTHER CLASSES is better than AFMG…because i just cant say that, i am a final year student, yet to attend any classes…
i never told if any subject is taught well in diams or any subject taught well in afmg…i dont know the inner quality…

the only thing important for me is , if 61% claim is true or not..because, i want to join ur classes…i promise, if this claim is not true, might be i wont join you, but I WILL NOT ASK ANY OTHER STUDENT TO FOLLOW ME, OR TO ASK THEM NOT TO JOIN YOUR CLASSES….

I dont belong to any tution classes, and dont care if 100 studetns come to you or 1000 or 10.000…as i said earlier, i dont care, untill anybody steals my piggy bank…

I am not annoyed for how much you charge, or how do you teach or whatever…

I am a human being, … i got doubt, and want to clear the doubt..thats all..

Sir, …i am not a maniac…i wont make frenz to show u or join communities..lols…i got my real profile, as a student..just that i dont want to show my identity…you want to tke me as a chicken..tke it..but, i understand, to know the truth identity is purely not important…

Sir, I NEVER ASKED YOUR PERSONAL DETAILS…..i asked something THAT IS NOT ONLY IMPORTANT TO YOU, BUT TO ALL STUDENTS WHO WANT TO COME TO YOUR CLASSES…
So, your AFMG-claim is no more personal to you, but links all PAST-PRESENT AND POTENTIAL future students too…

Dearest sir,

This was my 3rd effort to know, truth politely and decently ..in your forum…
I cannot prove it, but you know it, that you or your moderators have deleted my initial similar two threads…

Aakhir, majboori mein,, i had to add the title..WILL YOU DELETE THIS THREAD TOO?…:(…
Sir, its soo easy for you..just give us the list of your total students and list of those who passed…
Why do you take this personal sir?….As i mentioned, AFMG is ours….our own classes…
You claimed. and we wished you to prove it….
I promise, you provide me details or not…i wont repeat my mistake..i will never abuse you or your classes…
But sir, at the base, …i understand one thing…

WE TRULY DESERVE TO KNOW THE TRUTH….

Doubt me?…
Chalo, you select not to believe me…
But for other students, who have a geniune profile, and who have harmlessly expressed thier wish to know the inner-truth..
Atleast for your beloved students, let them know the truth.?
…….Reasoning is never bad…….
The logic is simple..you will prove it and ONLY you wil gain it..sir…please dont hesitate…

As i said, i promise again, if you choose to proivde authentic information, i will pull in double effort, than now, to praise abt AFMG…coz 61% is no big joke!….if 61% is true,, thats marvellous and just a MUST class for EVERYBODY!!!

Sir, i hope, you would turn with optimistic and equally friendly attitude..
Expecting you sir.:)

just tell me why u want to know.why its so important for u.hope i can help u

The stuff is as important to me, as it should be for any other student…
No personal vengence.
Only thing which is making me agressive, is Responsible people of AFMG, running away and not clarifying the 61% claim.
I am a usual student, not having any links whatsoever to any competitor to AFMG, perhaps even if i was, clarification by AFMG could have only added to its popularity…
Day by day, deletion of my scraps by AFMG forum moderators/owner is making my belief firm..that there is somethin behind the 61% claim issue..

if Dr. Vikas can openly announce on Orkut about pass% being 61%, why is he not proving it equally loudly?

We students, as once fooled by our fellow contractors about best study atmosphere in russia/china( most of the studentswere infact fooled at once), donot wantto be fooled again…Its important for us to decide, if we want to go to which tution classes…AFMG or NOT…
61% definitely attracts me to join AFMG…but question is..what if this is untrue?

if u dont like here y ur staying man .. tell me onething can u become doctor if u read 6months in coaching center ??? not neccessary to read 5yrs ??? and y ur always pulling Vikas sir leg . IF u cant believe dont join man..prepare urself . He is giving coaching , China is also giving coaching , Some like some dont . Some succeed n some fail , but hardworking person never fails. Instead of pointing mistake in others see ur failures n try to get bak on track….Read well . Study Basics and i gurantee u . u wont require any coaching..Work hard man, All the best .
Pandu

why r we always taught to compromise? to compromise with whatever we have?
Never to say aloud against the system?
why do we have to always think..that some x person is pointing finger on vikas sir or not…why for a moment we cant see, this Vikas sir, even after enjoying this play, not having courtesy to reply back?
why to we always zerodown to what is minimum?
With AFMG or without AFMG, i know i will clear MCI…question is not that…
Question is, do we need to believe blindly?

For atleast last 5 days, a person is trying to FIGHT against the system…by all means possible begging explanation on 61% claim…

Why dont you guys, when asking me to keep finger on my mouth, drop scraps with same intensity in vikas sir`s scrapbuk,…his explanation will definitely be a relief….

The story will not end here…An explanation will have to be given…either today or tomorrow…

Pandu, its not that, i shut my buks, and earn money by asking explanations from people.. studies are on thier pace…Cant bear somebody fooling AGAIN!

You got a better reputation..why dont you only help me with the explanation…i am sure, vikas sir wil listen to your plea..and if it is the same pandu,he too was interested in knowing the truth..

Takecare and gudluck with your studies…

mere bhai,,,if u want to pass exam then classes will give u guidence but to pass u have to study hard n for that nobody will come at ur home n will sit with u will gv u lecture

I have been watching dis discussion about AFMG in dis forum for a long time. I think its high time for Dr.Vikas to give a gud reply 2 Juz n evry 1 else who r trying 2 say he is trying 2 fool students; so dat they will shut their mouths. I’m also planning 2 join AFMG but when Dr.vikas keeps silent about the questions raised by others about AFMG’s pass %, we r wondering y dont u give the number of students passed out of d total students appeard for MCI from AFMG. Also, I request rajneesh not 2 delete dis topic as before because dis time der is nothing like disfaming AFMG n thus not against d community rules.

@ Juz
I request u 2 respect others, expecially someone like Dr.Vikas who was always here to help us. he would have given u all the details regarding dis issue if u asked it in d proper way. though wat u wantd 2 know is reasonable, u tried 2 insult Dr.Vikas initially which is not fair. We suspect ur identity too even though its not relevant

as everything said this discussion has been going on for a very long time..
dr vikas has also been helping us for a very long time..
all are supporting dr vikas.
so vikas sir.pls clarify this and rajeensh pls dont delete this topic as for others who have doubt let them clarify dr vikas sir truthfulness by this topic.
i honestly request vikas sir to clarify all doubts and come out with flying colours.
i know its ur independence to clarify or not.
but we as a whole from mci unit and students who eager to finish course in china/russia and planning to join ur course request u to clarify.
vikas sir u r made by our like students and we r made a sucessful doctors by ur like professors.
so we all request to clarify all our doubt.